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jennifer38 : (20 December 2014 - 03:43 PM) I'd like to thank everyone who dialed into my phone conference, earlier today.  It was a wonderful time.  Lord willing, I plan to do more of these after the holidays.  I will announce one as time gets nearer.
carrell : (19 December 2014 - 01:40 PM) Any members in New Mexico ?
jennifer38 : (19 December 2014 - 12:16 PM) I still plan to have another phone conference, tomorrow.  All members are invited.  Details are on the calendar.
UsernameOpti... : (18 December 2014 - 07:55 PM) Happy Birthday to stephani
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AshMich1945 : (18 December 2014 - 10:57 AM) Hello...my name when I'm transformed, is Ashleigh Michelle James. I'm a lifelong cd/tg from sw Connecticut. I've been fascinated by female attire and femininity since I was very young. Now that I'm mature, I can enjoy all the benefits of being a woman. I hope to meet many more members from CT and share my experiences with them as well as possibly go out for shopping trips, coffee latches and brunch.
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jennifer38 : (15 December 2014 - 10:56 AM) I plan to hold another conference this Saturday at 3 PM Eastern.  For those who came to the last one, the number and meeting ID are the same.  Anybody who does not have the number and is interested, please message me, as I've been advised to not openly post the number and ID for fear of them falling into the hands of troublemakers.  Also, anytime I bring up religion and The Bible, it is not meant to intimidate or embarrass anyone.  I'm sorry if anyone feels put down, because I have no intentions of doing so.  In spite of my transgender feelings, I have a deep love for Christ, but I respect those who don't believe like I do.  My goal of these telephone chats is simply to create a telephone hang-out for us fellow trans on all levels of the spectrum, and for our allies.  I hope to see you all there.
cross2play : (13 December 2014 - 07:57 PM) I cross dresser 1st time in days & walked on high street as her it was amazingly incredible : cdsing in moderation he he !
PamalaFlinn : (12 December 2014 - 02:56 PM) Jay P . I am in Baltimore sometimes.
MonicaPz : (12 December 2014 - 01:15 PM) Jen, it was great, and I can't wait!
jennifer38 : (12 December 2014 - 01:12 PM) I thank everybody who called into my telephone conference.  It was wonderful.  I feel good about talking to others and hearing their perspectives.  Lord willing, I will hold another one, soon.  The conference number and ID will always be the same.  I will let you all know when I plan to do this, again.  God bless you all.
JayPea25 : (12 December 2014 - 11:50 AM) Anyone in Baltimore!?
veronicabeta : (12 December 2014 - 12:16 AM) Dug the Vid Warren. T.Y.!
Bonnie : (11 December 2014 - 02:45 PM) Fun video, Warren, except for the ending.  The jumping while running hand in hand.  It is good to see a video like this though.  Thank you.
jennifer38 : (11 December 2014 - 11:41 AM) This is a reminder about my telephone conference, tomorrow afternoon at 3 EST.  Come out and enjoy yourself.  This is a general chat about our various transgender feelings and issues.  This is a great way to get to know one another better.  Details are in the calendar.  If you have any questions, please message me.  Hope to see you there, tomorrow.

APA Drops GID from DSM

DSM APA gender identity disorder gender dysphoria American Pyschiatric Assoc

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Dan Avery, 09.09.2012
"Previously, an individual’s gender identity could be used against them in custody battles and other legal cases. But removing it from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) could cost  trans people insurance coverage for hormone treatments and gender-reassigment surgery."  -queerty.com

American Pyschiatric Association Drops Gender Identity Disorder as Mental Illness

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There seems to be a high price to pay for the depathologization of our trans identities. It's as if we will now be punished for having the status of normality.
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I think it is most definitely a catch-22 if any and all mention of anything to do with gender identity (transgender, transsexual) has been removed from the DSM.  BUT...if it has, just like the AMA has called all the shots before, they could do so again by simply mandating that Gender Dysphoria is a medical condition.

However, unless I am misinterpreting this, this is a case of semantics (for lack of a better word).  Gender Identity Disorder has been removed from the DSM, but replaced with Gender Dysphoria.

As I said, I might be misinterpreting what's actually been done.  When I read the article last nite, I wasn't real sure which way things actually went, and I have read other articles which discussed this very thing - simply replacing "disorder" with "dyphoria," with the idea that "dysphoria" removes the implication that transpeople are mentally ill.

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So, how long before some of the "Neanderthal " judges bother to at least look closely as to new findings / Will this become foddr for the Religious Right ? Hummmmmmmmmm, stay tuned , this could prove to be a bumpy ride .............................

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"So, how long before some of the "Neanderthal " judges bother to at least look closely as to new findings...."  -Ellen

I don't think we have to worry about the judges and any ignorance and/or intolerance they may possess.  If someone ends up in front of a judge faced with something like child custody in the balance (as a very good example), the person's lawyer will surely be armed with the knowledge of these changes.  The courts will no longer be able to arrogantly sit back and use gender identity as the sole reason to deny a [trans]parent custody or rights on the premise that gender identity is a mental illness - which I think we've all read of, or know of, at least one case where a court disallowed custody, and imposed severely restricted visitation for no other reason than the parent was TG/TS.

I would think that if a person was faced with something like child custody or visitation rights, that person would know about the changes to the DSM, and would be sure to point it out to his/her lawyer.

As for fodder for the religious right, doesn't matter which way anything goes.  If it doesn't go their way, they will make the ride bumpy... :lol:

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Point taken .

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The depathologization of Trans identity needs to be more than just semantic. Dysphoria seems to be just another useful clinical term pandering to the medical establishment.

There needs to be an holistic approach. Insurance coverage for hormone treatments and gender-reassigment surgery need to be seriously addressed to best meet the needs of trans people.

There is a website called STP Stop Trans Depathologization 2012 which campaigns against the psychiatrization of our identities, thou it doesn't seem to address Insurance issues http://www.stp2012.i...ld/en/manifesto
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The points are varied and the views a bit scewed but the issue is as it was for the Gay movement to be removed from Psycholologic dictates and mandates and allowed to be seen as humans with Medical issues not Mental ones , the same arguments were played back then as now and now sociatal norms dictate treatments for Gay patients , the same could become true for the Trans population if the correct steps are being followed , the issuse are not being addressed simply the Diagnostic classifications , Though we have systemic issues accociated with Dysphoria due to Gender Identity does not mean nor should it dictate the generalisation of all patients as having Mental Disorders , the declasification from Gender Identity Disorder to Gender Dysphoria is a small step , lets see how many more can be taken before we fall on our faces .

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You're right, Michael. It's just play on words it comes down to money. By patholgiizing us the APA can continue pumping folks with their drugs and make us feel abnormal. We ARE normal and what the APA has done to us is criminal.





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