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APA Drops GID from DSM

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Dan Avery, 09.09.2012
"Previously, an individual’s gender identity could be used against them in custody battles and other legal cases. But removing it from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) could cost  trans people insurance coverage for hormone treatments and gender-reassigment surgery."  -queerty.com

American Pyschiatric Association Drops Gender Identity Disorder as Mental Illness

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There seems to be a high price to pay for the depathologization of our trans identities. It's as if we will now be punished for having the status of normality.
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I think it is most definitely a catch-22 if any and all mention of anything to do with gender identity (transgender, transsexual) has been removed from the DSM.  BUT...if it has, just like the AMA has called all the shots before, they could do so again by simply mandating that Gender Dysphoria is a medical condition.

However, unless I am misinterpreting this, this is a case of semantics (for lack of a better word).  Gender Identity Disorder has been removed from the DSM, but replaced with Gender Dysphoria.

As I said, I might be misinterpreting what's actually been done.  When I read the article last nite, I wasn't real sure which way things actually went, and I have read other articles which discussed this very thing - simply replacing "disorder" with "dyphoria," with the idea that "dysphoria" removes the implication that transpeople are mentally ill.

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So, how long before some of the "Neanderthal " judges bother to at least look closely as to new findings / Will this become foddr for the Religious Right ? Hummmmmmmmmm, stay tuned , this could prove to be a bumpy ride .............................

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"So, how long before some of the "Neanderthal " judges bother to at least look closely as to new findings...."  -Ellen

I don't think we have to worry about the judges and any ignorance and/or intolerance they may possess.  If someone ends up in front of a judge faced with something like child custody in the balance (as a very good example), the person's lawyer will surely be armed with the knowledge of these changes.  The courts will no longer be able to arrogantly sit back and use gender identity as the sole reason to deny a [trans]parent custody or rights on the premise that gender identity is a mental illness - which I think we've all read of, or know of, at least one case where a court disallowed custody, and imposed severely restricted visitation for no other reason than the parent was TG/TS.

I would think that if a person was faced with something like child custody or visitation rights, that person would know about the changes to the DSM, and would be sure to point it out to his/her lawyer.

As for fodder for the religious right, doesn't matter which way anything goes.  If it doesn't go their way, they will make the ride bumpy... :lol:

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Point taken .

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The depathologization of Trans identity needs to be more than just semantic. Dysphoria seems to be just another useful clinical term pandering to the medical establishment.

There needs to be an holistic approach. Insurance coverage for hormone treatments and gender-reassigment surgery need to be seriously addressed to best meet the needs of trans people.

There is a website called STP Stop Trans Depathologization 2012 which campaigns against the psychiatrization of our identities, thou it doesn't seem to address Insurance issues http://www.stp2012.i...ld/en/manifesto
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The points are varied and the views a bit scewed but the issue is as it was for the Gay movement to be removed from Psycholologic dictates and mandates and allowed to be seen as humans with Medical issues not Mental ones , the same arguments were played back then as now and now sociatal norms dictate treatments for Gay patients , the same could become true for the Trans population if the correct steps are being followed , the issuse are not being addressed simply the Diagnostic classifications , Though we have systemic issues accociated with Dysphoria due to Gender Identity does not mean nor should it dictate the generalisation of all patients as having Mental Disorders , the declasification from Gender Identity Disorder to Gender Dysphoria is a small step , lets see how many more can be taken before we fall on our faces .

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You're right, Michael. It's just play on words it comes down to money. By patholgiizing us the APA can continue pumping folks with their drugs and make us feel abnormal. We ARE normal and what the APA has done to us is criminal.





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