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The things they don't tell you about marriage are legendary.


There is a seriously flawed cultural understanding of marriage in American society.  There is this collective assumption that every marriage functions the same, and our media reinforces that.  A giant wash of anything that doesn't look the same.  For a country of freedom we do that a lot, alienation of people who look different, behave different, culturally different, etc.  So much of this country really practices the 'freedom to be just like me' rather than 'freedom to be who you are in peace'. 

But the things I have come up in through two marriages and...um...nearly 23 total years of being in a marriage (I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly I got divorced at around the five year mark, but had only actively lived in the marriage for nearly three so I get confused because the divorce was rather anticlimactic in the grand scheme of my life to be honest) that no one ever talked about or in any way socially or culturally prepared me is huge.  From the giant ones like mental illness(violent/aggressive - ex husband, difficulty functioning like everyone else me, my son), transgenderism (current husband), trying to navigate a healthy addition of a husband with a child, to small things like handling opposing wants, germs, boredom, and the day to day stress of close quarters living with another human being.  None of that really gets talked about.  Or maybe I just lived in a weirdly sheltered bubble.  But whenever my family, friends, coworkers, media, etc. talk about it they always play up all the 'pros', and gloss over or entirely omit the minutiae and human element of it all.  They make you feel bad if you're not living a Disney fantasy 24/7, which is ridiculous considering no one does. 

We live in a country with a HIGH failure rate of marriage.  And I do have to wonder if a large part of that can be attributed to the 'don't ask, don't tell' mentality we have about a lot of things, not just alternate sexuality people in the military.  There is so much talk about 'defense of marriage' out there in regards to treating homosexual couples equally, but they're not really defending anything.  Really defending marriage would be to talk about it in much more realistic terms, not setting young people up with these insane expectations from it, and yes, discussing all the varied forms of marriage, including same sex, polyamory, polygamy, romantic marriage, lifestyle marriage, etc. etc.  Telling them the truth that if you don't keep working at it, boredom does set in, not because you're partner or you are bad, but because that is how humans work.  Teaching strategies for the curveballs instead of letting people flail around trying to figure out what to do, it seems like every time anyone in a marriage (including myself) gets tossed a huge curveball there is no coping mechanisms in place and a lot of flailing around 'I don't know what to do!"(and I mean a general sense of "oh, things happen, I feel this and have to figure out where I want to go from here' not a a precognitive ready for everything vs. this isn't ever supposed to happen I"m the only person in the world and I have no social concept what to do at all!).   And the 'roles' and understanding of gender in marriages does more harm than good too, roles should be based on the individual personalities involved not the gender, and there should be freedom to talk honestly rather than expectation of people as a gender, example: when a guy cheats post new child because he's feeling neglected and unwelcome.  Why doesn't he talk about it with his wife?  Because he's been taught to never talk about weaknesses or feelings, and she's been taught to view any talk of such things negatively also.  Stay at home fathers face a lot of nastiness, while stay at home mothers are praised.  But not all women are suited for motherhood, and I think honestly most men ARE suited for fatherhood, they're just taught our weird almost hands off kinda cultural expectation of fatherhood.  We as a society here are SO invested in wanting everyone else to validate our life choices by making the same ones that it gets really ugly for people who are different. 

That 'defense of marriage' crap really bothers me.  Because we're not defending or promoting stable marriages, we're socially actively engaged in over romanticizing and cultural deconstruction of marriage.  The biggest threat to anyone's marriage is internal, not the gender of the married neighbors.  No one's lifestyle is threatened by allowing others to live their lifestyles, just their sense of being able to force other to be like themselves through legislations, media presentation, and social pressure is slowly being eroded, and maybe one day when we break past the legendary amount of things we don't talk about then a real defense of lasting relationships in all their forms for all people in equality like we talk about can happen.  And for the people who don't like a thing, they don't have to.  They don't have to embrace anyone they don't like.  But they DO have to treat those people with common civility, respect, and safety.  You don't have to invite the gay/ethnic/trans/religious/atheist/man/woman/children over for dinner and board games, but you do have to allow them to live peacefully and unharassed emotionally, physically, financially, legally, and socially.  It's what manners were invented for in the first place, so that people who don't like each other can go about their day to day live in peace around each other. 

Yes, I came out okay, more or less on top.  But how much better could I have done if married women before me talked about the realities of marriage to me growing up?  If the only media shows that talked about issues like boredom, insecurity, jealousy, neglect, lifestyle erosion of affection, etc. etc. were the ones where someone ends up dead?  If we didn't try to erase people who don't fit the mainstream culture and instead taught a calmer 'not my thing, thank you, but good luck!' response.   Some people are exceptional and say early on "I have a potential dealbreaker, let's talk about this".  There were three in my personal dating history, but most of them tried to hide them until serious investment figuring once the emotional/time investment was made they could force me into accepting it.  One I took the out for, I couldn't romantically get engaged in it, but the other two I didn't and the relationships failed for the classic natural reasons, our personalities weren't right together.  The ones that hid it assuming they could manipulate me into dealing, they were wrong, even Nikki.  Nikki almost didn't come out of this okay because secrets and lying are a hotbutton for me, but I gave him a pass because of the realistic world fear of violence, not just fear of the relationship ending.  But one more secret or lie I don't know about? We're absolutely done.   But I think about how much craziness and marital strife could have been avoided over the years if there had just been an understanding that 'flaws' and 'dealbreakers' (of any kind, I'm not making a judgement on trans here, I know my audience here may be sensitive to my wording here so I want to be clear, by flaw i mean things like my temper and inability to get anywhere on time and general inability to organize at all) are as much of a HUGE determining factor of the day to day of marriages as the 'virtues' and 'dealmakers' are, and so are the basic wants and needs of each person, even if society deems those wants and needs undesirable.  It doesn't make them go away.

The answer to how much better I could have done?  A lot.  I would have been a better person on the whole, and dealt better with my relationships in both a very real understanding of how to actually be IN them and deal with the things happening in them, to knowing when to say stop in a rational, positive manner, to realizing familial relationships are relationships and should be terminated if they aren't healthy way before things got as damaging as they are. 

The past can't change, but maybe we can make the future change, and leave a better, more open, and more realistic expectation of marriages for those coming up behind us and less emotional trauma (and murder!  Discovery channel certainly taught me how often marriage leads to murder) for them. And more equality and less alienation because that persons marriage doesn't look like mine. 

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Emma

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Well said, Bree. Like so many things, I could've lived my life and marriage(s) much better but for a lot of things. I remember when in my twenties I just didn't comprehend wisdom. I assumed it was all talk that was used to invalidate me.  About four decades later I get it. I certainly wish I knew then what I know now! 

And yes, truthfulness and open communication are everything.  I was sort of open to my wife about my TG feelings before we married and about ten years ago. By "sort of" I told her what I thought I knew, which was very very hard for me given how much shame I carried around it.  And when my feelings were categorically denied I suppressed as best I could (and I was well practiced in that) until almost three years when she encouraged me to return to therapy and fortunately, the therapist was encouraging and supportive in my oh so slowly and painfully letting it out. Which led to my exploration, research, and what I feel is much better understanding of who I am and self-acceptance.  

But now my knowledge that I am transgender is looking like it may be a deal breaker for our marriage. At first I was so deeply hurt by that understanding. I justified that hurt by telling myself that my being trans can be considered similar to other conditions that might arise, such as cancer, dementia, etc. But those are diseases and being trans is not at all in that category.  And the more I thought about it the more I realized that if my being trans is a deal breaker for her then it is what it is. It's tragic for both of us and fault-free for both of us. Who knows why it bothers her so much but that doesn't really matter. I could try to guilt her into trying to become more accepting and maybe through that hope that she'd gradually become accepting. But that's no way to live for either of us.

I think now that a fundamental characteristic of a successful/happy marriage is unconditional acceptance. Without that there is always that elephant in the room. But I also believe that unconditional acceptance doesn't have to mean that (for example) she needs to delight in my coming into the room wearing a dress. That would be great but maybe there is another way for us to achieve that. I don't know what it is and I'm willing to explore it with her if she's willing.  Of that I'm not certain at this time. I'm exploring that with her in the coming weeks and maybe months.

I do certainly agree with your characterization of the "defense of marriage." It's all hyperbole used as a way to justify fear-based prejudices and concerns that are baseless and otherwise unsupportable.  I don't know why some people feel that way. I could guess and maybe I'd be close to the truth. My hurling attacks at them doesn't do any good so I don't bother. I just try to support what I believe in and live as good a life as I can.  

You're a wise woman, Bree.  Thank you for your posts.

Emma

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Briannah

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Thank you for reading them!  I was thinking about the whole sorry mess of marriage in relation to several recent conversations with a variety of friends looking for advice/comforting listener on a variety of topics, including the ever terrifying friend of mine attacking his wife and one of her children, and now he's stalking her after she left him.  Man is that a mess, and I backed the hell away from him fast, he's not the person I thought he was obviously.  Gyah.  But it all stirred up a  lot of thought on the whole thing.  And how pervasive that 'you have to do it just like I do' really is.  It seems like I don't know anyone who doesn't have to constantly defend the state of their marriage to others.  Children, how many people are involved, what races are involved, religions, money, behaviors, etc. etc.  Why are we on the culture as a whole so obsessed with external validation of our own situations by forcing others to mirror them or getting a cheap superiority thrill at their expense by labeling them lesser for those differences if they refuse to change to please society?   Did we lose the ability to live and let live individually, or did we never really have it? 

I don't understand my world.  I just live in it. 

I think you have a very realistic and empathetic view of what is going on in your house, unconditional acceptance of a person for who they are versus unconditional acceptance of her sense of self and her own feelings.  And you're right, it doesn't really matter why.  It could be as simple as her romantic/relationship maps just do not work at all for women, and if so that is immutable.  Or it could be a series of complex life and social experiences that can be mutable, but only if she chooses it to be.  And unless she makes that choice, you're right, the result and dealing with it maturely is what matters, and you are so elegant at that.  And at understanding that sometime letting go IS acceptance.  You're so far ahead of so many other people.  When you talk about her your words ring with the knowledge between trying to make it work and accepting that you can't force it, and that is a joy to hear these days especially.  If only my former friend could understand that. 

So I tell my son all of this, and let him make of it what he will, but when he hits my age, he won't be sitting here wondering why no one really talked about marriage as a whole.  The ups and downs.  I've been criticized before for talking openly with him about most things, 'children don't need to know their parents baggage', but I really disagree, and children SHOULD see thier parents baggage, and that their parents handle it, and are willing to talk about how they handle it, where it comes from, and prepare their children for doing the same instead of just 'good luck, we don't talk about those things'! 

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MonicaPz

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Dear Briannah and Emma,

Strongly agree with the both of you.  In fact, I will take it farther.  Feel that no two marriages are the same.  They are as unique as the two people involved!

Your friend,

Monica

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